June 1st is right around the corner. When the clock strikes Midnight on June 1st we'll be turning on a new web platform that will combine the end users forums, the secure forums, and the MFP solutions Blog.
If you're a Print4Pay Hotel member you'll be grandfathered in to the new site, there is nothing you need to do. The new site will be somewhat similar to facebook and linked in, where you can add your own picture, your own bio, add clips, add documents, download documents, add video and subscribe to threads and see what's trending in our industry. We'll still have the forums, however in order to post or read a thread you'll need to be registered and as always I will maintain who gets approved and who does not. For those of you that had to bookmark four different sites, they will now all be combined into one site.
We've posted a link for the beta site on the Print4Pay Hotel forums, if you get the time check out the beta site and please email me if you have any suggestions.
Moving to the new site will save me time, I'll only have to administer one site for updates and changes. This will then allow me more time to develop new features, new utilities and services that will provide outstanding value to our members.
To date the Print4Pay Hotel has over 2,600 registered members from around the world. Our Print4Pay Hotel forums has over 50,000 threads related to the office equipment industry, and the Print4Pay Hotel generates more than 220,000 page views per month.
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Sunday, April 21, 2013
How Do You Feel About the Copier Industry?
How Do You Feel About the Copier Industry? This is the title of a recent thread on the Print4Pay Hotel forums that was posted a little more than a month a go. I thought I would share some of the comments from our members. If you'd like to read the entire threads please go here and register for a free membership.
I still believe there are many more pages to capture. I'm not thrilled with the shrinking margins, however I gotten used to picking my battles and knowing when I can make GP and when I can't. I think our industry needs to be more creative with new products also..... Member from NJ
We have one dealer in our territory with the sell at all cost mentality, low ball service, low ball the sale just to get the deal..... Member from WI
I'm in favor of a contraction of the industry as a whole.... Member from NJ
Anyway it seems you have to work harder and harder every year, I'm not opposed to working hard but will be interesting to see when the industry bottoms out. Member from New Zealand
Society does not seem to be producing people who want to be in outside sales or think that they can earn an income other than by sitting behind a computer..... Member from Canada
I think it is easy (30 years of thinking a warped way) but when you get a
I still believe there are many more pages to capture. I'm not thrilled with the shrinking margins, however I gotten used to picking my battles and knowing when I can make GP and when I can't. I think our industry needs to be more creative with new products also..... Member from NJ
We have one dealer in our territory with the sell at all cost mentality, low ball service, low ball the sale just to get the deal..... Member from WI
I'm in favor of a contraction of the industry as a whole.... Member from NJ
Anyway it seems you have to work harder and harder every year, I'm not opposed to working hard but will be interesting to see when the industry bottoms out. Member from New Zealand
Society does not seem to be producing people who want to be in outside sales or think that they can earn an income other than by sitting behind a computer..... Member from Canada
I think it is easy (30 years of thinking a warped way) but when you get a
Monday, January 28, 2013
Print4Pay Hotel Earns More than 1.9 Million....
Print4Pay Hotel Earns More than 1.9 Million ( I wish it were dollars ), page views for 2012! It was an incredible year of page growth for us and of course we'd like to thank all of our Print4Pay Hotel Members and readers for the continued growth of page views.
January 2013 is also proving to be a banner month with over 175,000 page views for the forums and we may hit 25,000 page views for the blog. We're hoping we can top 2 million page views for 2013.
If you're not familiar with the forums we have two, one is a non secure forum platform and the second is a secure forum platform. The secure forum platform is specifically designed for people that are in the Imaging Industry, and we offer the secure forums so members can communicate with their peers in the industry. We offer forums for all of the Imaging Manufacturers along with forums for Managed Print, Document Management, Managed Network Services and many other forums that keep our members up to date with the Imaging Industry.
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January 2013 is also proving to be a banner month with over 175,000 page views for the forums and we may hit 25,000 page views for the blog. We're hoping we can top 2 million page views for 2013.
If you're not familiar with the forums we have two, one is a non secure forum platform and the second is a secure forum platform. The secure forum platform is specifically designed for people that are in the Imaging Industry, and we offer the secure forums so members can communicate with their peers in the industry. We offer forums for all of the Imaging Manufacturers along with forums for Managed Print, Document Management, Managed Network Services and many other forums that keep our members up to date with the Imaging Industry.
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Saturday, January 19, 2013
"Do you think Sharp will sell the MFP division"?
Back in early November I posted a poll on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. We asked "Do you think Sharp will sell the MFP division"? The response was a simple yes or no.
If you're a new reader, please let me give you a little background about the Print4Pay Hotel. The short and sweet of the Print4Pay Hotel is that we started a web forums for imaging industry people back in 2003. To date we have close to 2,000 registered members, we also cull the membership to keep our email list up to date (since many in our industry come and go). It's my belief and I've heard this from many others, that the Print4Pay Hotel members is a conglomerate of the best of breed sales people, managers and dealers owners from around the globe.
If you've not been hiding under a rock for the last six months then you know that Sharp, Japan has been overburdened with debt. This debt was accumulated from large losses, the mortgaging of almost all of their properties and recent titanic bank loans from Japanese banks. Lately, Sharp is in somewhat of a small rebound due to the recent yen declining against the US dollar, a small investment from Qualcom (small compared to the debt that Sharp owes) and the recent statement that Sharp expects to turn a profit for the last fiscal quarter of this year (ends March 31st).
Some recent threads that were posted on the Print4Pay Hotel forums were this:
If you're a new reader, please let me give you a little background about the Print4Pay Hotel. The short and sweet of the Print4Pay Hotel is that we started a web forums for imaging industry people back in 2003. To date we have close to 2,000 registered members, we also cull the membership to keep our email list up to date (since many in our industry come and go). It's my belief and I've heard this from many others, that the Print4Pay Hotel members is a conglomerate of the best of breed sales people, managers and dealers owners from around the globe.
If you've not been hiding under a rock for the last six months then you know that Sharp, Japan has been overburdened with debt. This debt was accumulated from large losses, the mortgaging of almost all of their properties and recent titanic bank loans from Japanese banks. Lately, Sharp is in somewhat of a small rebound due to the recent yen declining against the US dollar, a small investment from Qualcom (small compared to the debt that Sharp owes) and the recent statement that Sharp expects to turn a profit for the last fiscal quarter of this year (ends March 31st).
Some recent threads that were posted on the Print4Pay Hotel forums were this:
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Sunday, November 11, 2012
Sharp "Reading between the Lines"
Sharp Action is the title of a thread on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. Just today I had the chance to check out the threads from Print4Pay Hotel members.
The thread was started by GMAN (we all know GMAN is good for some juicy news) that BIG News is coming for Sharp Dealers and consider yourself warned! I love a good rumor just as good as everyone else if not more. I PM'd (private message) GMAN through the forums and all I'm going to day is "that is it not Sharp's Promotional Plus Pricing".
The one thing that I love about the Print4Pay Hotel forums is that you can "read between the lines" meaning when it comes to Sharp USA I can understand where they are coming from and why they are so aggressive in the US marketplace now. But the "reading between the lines" comes from other Print4Pay Hotel members that are speculating or hearing someone else on another level.
Vince McHugh writes his own blog at The Connected Copier, if you're following his blog and mine about Sharp and the comments then I believe you are being kept up to date with the recent events of Sharp Corporation. Every since a Nikkei analyst stated that "Sharp MAY sell it copier division", Sharp USA has been on the defensive, so much so that they've signed some 15 new dealers, instituted a new Promotional Plus pricing program and even had the Chairman of Sharp's Dealer Advisory Council tell Vince that he should stick to selling copiers, this is his statement "I recommend that you focus on your business". So, here's a Sharp Dealer Owner that is trying to set the record straight because he heard from "Sharp Corporation's top factory executive and Member of the Board that they shared plans for a profitable B2B business". I agree, that top exec needs to say the right thing and do everything he can to keep the factories running, stating anything else would just keep adding fuel to the fire.
Here's some of the comments from the forums:
The thread was started by GMAN (we all know GMAN is good for some juicy news) that BIG News is coming for Sharp Dealers and consider yourself warned! I love a good rumor just as good as everyone else if not more. I PM'd (private message) GMAN through the forums and all I'm going to day is "that is it not Sharp's Promotional Plus Pricing".
The one thing that I love about the Print4Pay Hotel forums is that you can "read between the lines" meaning when it comes to Sharp USA I can understand where they are coming from and why they are so aggressive in the US marketplace now. But the "reading between the lines" comes from other Print4Pay Hotel members that are speculating or hearing someone else on another level.
Vince McHugh writes his own blog at The Connected Copier, if you're following his blog and mine about Sharp and the comments then I believe you are being kept up to date with the recent events of Sharp Corporation. Every since a Nikkei analyst stated that "Sharp MAY sell it copier division", Sharp USA has been on the defensive, so much so that they've signed some 15 new dealers, instituted a new Promotional Plus pricing program and even had the Chairman of Sharp's Dealer Advisory Council tell Vince that he should stick to selling copiers, this is his statement "I recommend that you focus on your business". So, here's a Sharp Dealer Owner that is trying to set the record straight because he heard from "Sharp Corporation's top factory executive and Member of the Board that they shared plans for a profitable B2B business". I agree, that top exec needs to say the right thing and do everything he can to keep the factories running, stating anything else would just keep adding fuel to the fire.
Here's some of the comments from the forums:
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Ricoh Americas is now Soliciting Dealer Accounts?
This letter raised a few questions:
1) How did Ricoh know that my church has a new Ricoh Copier?
2) Where did they get that information from?
3) Is this going to happen with all of my accounts?
So, I'm thinking this through trying to figure out where Ricoh got the data from, I thought it couldn't be Aficio League because we black out the customer name and address on the invoice and we don't give them the customer name. Ok, so I remembered that I used NCPG (national church buying group) pricing for this account.
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Sunday, October 28, 2012
Was Ricoh USA in fact absorbed by IKON?

We're going to take you way back to December 2nd of 2007 when I posted this poll Print4Pay Hotel forums Who is Going to Acquire Who in 08! .
The Print4Pay Hotel forums is for anyone who is in the office equipment business, we have over 2,000 registered global members. We share infomation and news in a secure format via our forums. To date we have almost 40,000 threads related to the industry. I like to call it the wiki notes of the copier industry for the last ten years.
On with the poll question.
Who is going to Buy Who in
2009: | ||
The results were: 18% for Ricoh to buy Ikon 18% for Canon to buy Ikon 55% for HP to buy Ikon 0% for Ricoh to buy Danka 2% for Canon to buy Danka 0% for HP to buy Danka Plus these two threads: Could the writing be on the wall???Always give a second look at a company when they start to buy back their own stock! IKON Office Solutions (NYSE: IKN) 23% HIGHER; announced that its Board of Directors has approved the repurchase of $500 million of its common stock. IKON intends to repurchase up to $295 million of its common stock through a modified "Dutch Auction" self-tender offer at a price of not less than $13 per share or more than $15 per share (posted by yours truly). |
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012
There is No End in Site to Sharp's Crisis
In a editorial release the other day from The Asahi Shimbun, they reported that "there in no end in site Sharp's Crisis". The report went on to state that the Hon Hai Group deal with Ming the Merciless (Terry Gou) is on hold and this deal is critical to Sharp's turn around. One of the key factors maybe that Hon Hai wants a seat on the Sharp board, and Sharp seems unwilling to move on this. This could be a deeper culture issue with the Chinese and Japanese.
It was also reported last week that the two main Japanese bank lenders MAY send and executive team to protect their interests, at this point there's been no further news about this.
While we've been following all of the news & rumors about Sharp on the Print4Pay Hotel forums, it seems to be the general consensus that Sharp USA may also be starting to feel the effects of Sharp's financial mess. I for one have put doubt in current Sharp MFP clients and will continue to bring up the financial crisis for Sharp, and if I'm doing it, pretty much means anyone with half a brain is also bringing this up.
Ask yourself what has value that Sharp can sell? Is there any real value in business units that can't make a profit with LCD TV's?
Here's some of the recent threads on the Print4Pay Hotel forums:
Could Sharp be the next Kodak?
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It was also reported last week that the two main Japanese bank lenders MAY send and executive team to protect their interests, at this point there's been no further news about this.
While we've been following all of the news & rumors about Sharp on the Print4Pay Hotel forums, it seems to be the general consensus that Sharp USA may also be starting to feel the effects of Sharp's financial mess. I for one have put doubt in current Sharp MFP clients and will continue to bring up the financial crisis for Sharp, and if I'm doing it, pretty much means anyone with half a brain is also bringing this up.
Ask yourself what has value that Sharp can sell? Is there any real value in business units that can't make a profit with LCD TV's?
Here's some of the recent threads on the Print4Pay Hotel forums:
- Art, I'm beginning to hear rumblings of contraction in their direct branches and even possible sell offs. Can anyone confirm/deny? If true, is this welcome news for Sharp dealers?
- Heard of some NC, ehhmm consolidation.
- well Sharp was announcing a number of new dealers recently this could be a play to be a Dealer only org in the US. come to think of it why are OEM's in the business of selling anyways? You would think OEM's would adopt a dealer structure like the Automotive industry.
- They could be going to more of a master distributor type of model. It is way less expensive for them to support 4-5 big wholesalers than 3-4-500 dealers across the US. The dist then has to give tech support, parts dist etc. A few years ago they pushed all the smaller dealers doing less than $500K annually thru distributors. This may be their long term master plan....... But who the heck knows?
Could Sharp be the next Kodak?
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Sunday, July 15, 2012
Oce is to CBS as Ikon is to RBS. True or not True

You gotta love the insight from Vince McHugh about Canon and OCE. He's dead on with the Ricoh/Ikon thing and dead on with the coming merge of Canon/Oce. Read and enjoy especially you Ricoh folks that have been slamming me for years, seems you're not the only dog on the block looking for a new fire hydrant! Vince....great stuff!!
Oce:CBS::Ikon:RBS Simple Math
In case your math skills are a little rusty the equation reads Oce is to CBS as Ikon is to RBS. True or not True. Here is my argument for True:
The carnage at Ricoh Business Solutions continues as the Ikon takeover of RBS moves into it’s final stages. Ikon’s management is firmly ensconced in upper and middle management of RBS. And guess who they are bringing along for the ride? All their Ikon friends. The loyal RBS employees are being squeezed out!
(Please feel free to skip the rant in red below. I will not feel offended if you do).
I need to digress here and say I long for the days when the company who BOUGHT
Thursday, June 7, 2012
Ricoh Convergence 2012 Update!
When Ricoh Americas holds a dealer event like Convergence, it's usually something special. The Convergence theme was born a few years ago in an attempt to merge the Savin, Ricoh, Gestetner and Lanier Dealers all into one dealer meeting. Before the Convergence dealer meeting each brand has it's own dealer meetings. I can see why Ricoh made the move to one dealer meeting for all dealers, savings.... and one unified message.
Before the Ricoh Convergence Dealers meetings the Ricoh Dealers meetings were called Vision. I can remember many excellent Vision & Convergence Meetings. Tops on my list was San Diego and one Vision Meeting that was held in Orlando at the Disney's Contemporary Resort. Since 1998 I've been with Century Office Products and most years as long as I hit my quotas I was off to the meetings with the owners of the company.
When hard times struck in 08 and 09 I was not there. 2009 saw Century under new ownership and since then I've only attended one meeting last year in 2011 (I paid my way to go). More importantly, I do want to stress that these dealer meetings are awesome and a lot can be learned from the seminars, workshops, exhibitors and networking with other MFP dealers and sales people. I'm also concerned that more salespeople aren't asked to attend the meetings by the dealer owners. Taking a break from the day to day drudgery of sales and attending an event such as Convergence can enlighten, and invigorate sales people so that when they are back in the field they are excited, knowledgeable, and feel that the dealership is committed to their success. Hell, I'd jump at the chance again even if I had to foot the bill.
This years Converegence may not go as well as planned, numerous changes with the top execuvtives in the last year are giving many dealers an. uneasy feeling. Rumors are flying that after the Ricoh Convergence Dealer meeting there will be another round of layoffs for Ricoh. Ricoh also seems to be struggling with an identity crisis when it comes to Managed Document Services. Just maybe there's some good news, the Ikon brand has disappeared, there's now one unified culture and Ricoh has started the transition to a business services model.
This year I'll be sitting out, I was not invited and felt that I shouldn't have to ask if I can go. No big deal! However, as the Print4Pay Hotel continues to grow our membership we will have Print4Pay Hotel members at Convergence 2012. These guys and gals will be giving our Print4Pay Hotel members updates through the Print4Pay Hotel forums.
Unlike last year when I wrote many blogs about Ricoh products after Convergence, the Convergence of 2012 will only have media coverage from people who never sold a copier, never went through the sales process, never had to prospect, never had rejection, never lost to competition and never had to rely on commissions to pay the bills. So, I ask you how can they communicate the value proposition of a piece of hardware, software or solution? We all know the answer right? I'll be attending the Info 360 and Print On Demand Show in NYC (member of the press) continue to sell Ricoh hardware, software and solutions until the bitter end.
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Before the Ricoh Convergence Dealers meetings the Ricoh Dealers meetings were called Vision. I can remember many excellent Vision & Convergence Meetings. Tops on my list was San Diego and one Vision Meeting that was held in Orlando at the Disney's Contemporary Resort. Since 1998 I've been with Century Office Products and most years as long as I hit my quotas I was off to the meetings with the owners of the company.
When hard times struck in 08 and 09 I was not there. 2009 saw Century under new ownership and since then I've only attended one meeting last year in 2011 (I paid my way to go). More importantly, I do want to stress that these dealer meetings are awesome and a lot can be learned from the seminars, workshops, exhibitors and networking with other MFP dealers and sales people. I'm also concerned that more salespeople aren't asked to attend the meetings by the dealer owners. Taking a break from the day to day drudgery of sales and attending an event such as Convergence can enlighten, and invigorate sales people so that when they are back in the field they are excited, knowledgeable, and feel that the dealership is committed to their success. Hell, I'd jump at the chance again even if I had to foot the bill.
This years Converegence may not go as well as planned, numerous changes with the top execuvtives in the last year are giving many dealers an. uneasy feeling. Rumors are flying that after the Ricoh Convergence Dealer meeting there will be another round of layoffs for Ricoh. Ricoh also seems to be struggling with an identity crisis when it comes to Managed Document Services. Just maybe there's some good news, the Ikon brand has disappeared, there's now one unified culture and Ricoh has started the transition to a business services model.
This year I'll be sitting out, I was not invited and felt that I shouldn't have to ask if I can go. No big deal! However, as the Print4Pay Hotel continues to grow our membership we will have Print4Pay Hotel members at Convergence 2012. These guys and gals will be giving our Print4Pay Hotel members updates through the Print4Pay Hotel forums.
Unlike last year when I wrote many blogs about Ricoh products after Convergence, the Convergence of 2012 will only have media coverage from people who never sold a copier, never went through the sales process, never had to prospect, never had rejection, never lost to competition and never had to rely on commissions to pay the bills. So, I ask you how can they communicate the value proposition of a piece of hardware, software or solution? We all know the answer right? I'll be attending the Info 360 and Print On Demand Show in NYC (member of the press) continue to sell Ricoh hardware, software and solutions until the bitter end.
-Good Selling=-
Sunday, April 8, 2012
KYOTIER Hybrid Color 3-tier Cost Per Page Pricing tool
In recent weeks I've had a couple of blogs referencing a Kycoera Dealer in California that was or is going to start advertising for full service and supplies for color pages @ .02 cents per page. The kicker of course, is the coverage. How much color coverage will "you"" the dealer allow on the page to charge .02 cents.
A few days ago I had an email from a Print4Pay Hotel member that asked me to forward him any information that I had about the color coverage amounts. After a few emails I found out that the Print4Pay Hotel member also sold Kyocera, and that they had been doing some research on other Kyocera Dealers that are advertising the customizable tiered pricing for color. I was sent a dealers advertising document (clicking the link will take you the file on the Print4Pay Hotel forums), KYOTIER, now I'm not sure if this is the name the dealer gave the pricing plan or if it's Kyoceras but I'm thinking it's the dealers.
This dealers flyer (dealers advertising document) is stating three tiers of color. The first tier useful color, which states "all black and pages with useful color". Off to the right is a sample of useful color stated 5% coverage. Basically it's two color images maybe a little bit bigger than a quarter and the cost per page for useful color is .01 or same cost as black based on a monthly volume of 12,500 pages of black and useful color.
The second tier is everyday color, which states "pages with a little more color". Off to the right is a sample of everyday color stated at 15% coverage. So, color coverage from 5.1% to 15% will cost .025 per page. The sample coverage shows a color photo that I estimate takes up 20% of the page and then two more color logos that look like they are about a half dollar in size, along with some black large header fonts and some very small black fonts. more on the next page
A few days ago I had an email from a Print4Pay Hotel member that asked me to forward him any information that I had about the color coverage amounts. After a few emails I found out that the Print4Pay Hotel member also sold Kyocera, and that they had been doing some research on other Kyocera Dealers that are advertising the customizable tiered pricing for color. I was sent a dealers advertising document (clicking the link will take you the file on the Print4Pay Hotel forums), KYOTIER, now I'm not sure if this is the name the dealer gave the pricing plan or if it's Kyoceras but I'm thinking it's the dealers.
This dealers flyer (dealers advertising document) is stating three tiers of color. The first tier useful color, which states "all black and pages with useful color". Off to the right is a sample of useful color stated 5% coverage. Basically it's two color images maybe a little bit bigger than a quarter and the cost per page for useful color is .01 or same cost as black based on a monthly volume of 12,500 pages of black and useful color.
The second tier is everyday color, which states "pages with a little more color". Off to the right is a sample of everyday color stated at 15% coverage. So, color coverage from 5.1% to 15% will cost .025 per page. The sample coverage shows a color photo that I estimate takes up 20% of the page and then two more color logos that look like they are about a half dollar in size, along with some black large header fonts and some very small black fonts. more on the next page
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Thursday, January 12, 2012
Do You Trust the Cloud
Actually the thread that was posted on the Print4Pay Hotel forums was "Can you Trust the Cloud" which was derived from a Xerox white paper that was posted many months ago. Below I'd like to post some snippets from the threads that we had posted. This thread was one of the more popular threads on the forums and continues to be read and additional threads posted.
From SSG: A good white paper from Xerox XGS.
xgs_whitepaper_cloud_computing.pdf
From SSG: I am learning about scanning to the cloud from any MFP via email by opening a free account at www.box.net and....
From SSG: A real interesting concept from Lexmark https://smartsolutions.lexmark.com/ssds/
You can basically upload dozens of free.....
From TXEAGLE: If only they would offer this on their B2B laser MFP's.
From AP: Most of my customers do not trust the cloud, those who do already have something working.
From Constanze: You can even scan directly and securely to the cloud from your Ricoh MFP(to Microsoft Online, Office 365 BPOS, SharePoint). Just take a look at www.udocx.com or at our....
From CASHGAP: This pretty much sums it up...http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-11-19/
Look forward, reason back. How many of us have big generators in the parking lot because we like to be in control of our own electrical uptime? Very.......
From JASONR: I totally agree, "not trusting" the cloud is an irrational fear.
From SSG: I just watched a video from the investment website called Motley Fool. They are stating that Cloud Computing is the next big thing to invest in. http://www.fool.com/shop/newsl...rce=irbsitlnk0000141 and point out the big three .....
From ANON: Buy an LG phone and get 50 GB of free Cloud storage on www.box.net .
http://storagenewsletter.com/n...l/lg-box-partnership
From SSG: Is 2012 the begining of the end for File Servers as more companies move to Cloud Storage? http://storagenewsletter.com/n...-egnyte-file-servers "Forrester found that 41 percent of information workers surveyed were using.......
There's may additional replies to this thread. According to the Xerox white paper the we're pretty much going to have to trust the cloud. The white paper even spoke about intellegent documents that would update themselves with new content.
Personally, I'd like to see more MFP's? Copiers have browser units in them that would allow us to use the MFP more open applications, meaning you would not have to use the "Ricoh, Xerox, Canon or KonicaMinolta" scan2cloud offerings. You could use the solution that works best for your document workflow and one the fits your financial concerns.
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From SSG: A good white paper from Xerox XGS.

From SSG: I am learning about scanning to the cloud from any MFP via email by opening a free account at www.box.net and....
From SSG: A real interesting concept from Lexmark https://smartsolutions.lexmark.com/ssds/
You can basically upload dozens of free.....
From TXEAGLE: If only they would offer this on their B2B laser MFP's.
From AP: Most of my customers do not trust the cloud, those who do already have something working.
From Constanze: You can even scan directly and securely to the cloud from your Ricoh MFP(to Microsoft Online, Office 365 BPOS, SharePoint). Just take a look at www.udocx.com or at our....
From CASHGAP: This pretty much sums it up...http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-11-19/
Look forward, reason back. How many of us have big generators in the parking lot because we like to be in control of our own electrical uptime? Very.......
From JASONR: I totally agree, "not trusting" the cloud is an irrational fear.
From SSG: I just watched a video from the investment website called Motley Fool. They are stating that Cloud Computing is the next big thing to invest in. http://www.fool.com/shop/newsl...rce=irbsitlnk0000141 and point out the big three .....
From ANON: Buy an LG phone and get 50 GB of free Cloud storage on www.box.net .
http://storagenewsletter.com/n...l/lg-box-partnership
From SSG: Is 2012 the begining of the end for File Servers as more companies move to Cloud Storage? http://storagenewsletter.com/n...-egnyte-file-servers "Forrester found that 41 percent of information workers surveyed were using.......
There's may additional replies to this thread. According to the Xerox white paper the we're pretty much going to have to trust the cloud. The white paper even spoke about intellegent documents that would update themselves with new content.
Personally, I'd like to see more MFP's? Copiers have browser units in them that would allow us to use the MFP more open applications, meaning you would not have to use the "Ricoh, Xerox, Canon or KonicaMinolta" scan2cloud offerings. You could use the solution that works best for your document workflow and one the fits your financial concerns.
-=Good Selling=-
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Tuesday, August 2, 2011
Xerox FREE High Volume Copiers
This is an ongoing topic on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. I thought I would share some of the threads that were posted by Print4Pay Hotel members.
Me: Dig this. I followed up today with a small print shop here in NJ today, towards the month end for me and this print shop had been in the market for a color printer, however my price was not right for him a few months ago.
Anyway, I'm on the phone with him (he's a good guy and wouldn't bs me), he tells me that he signed and agreement from Xerox for a refurbished 120ppm digital copier and a 25ppm color system with NO Base charges and NO minimums for monthly click charges, along with that he stated the cost per page charge is right in line with new systems!
He has to keep the machine for a minimum of 3 years and if he decides to get rid of the system there is a $500 charge to remove.
To say the least I was shocked and to tell the truth the customer is too! He said he checked the paperwork and all looked well, I asked that he check it again and read all of the fine print because this just seems to good to be true. In addition he stated that one of his other printer buddies did the same deal in NJ. He also stated that he has to wait 4-8 weeks to get the systems.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this in other parts of the country????
Reply from Printfun:
This is legit. It is only open to current non-users. It is as advertised, there really aren't any "catches". The goal is to introduce non-users to Xerox production color machines, allowing smaller print for pay customers to get into the game afford ably.
Reply from Chuck:
Think about it - Xerox places a NEW device in a P4P or School location and picks up perfectly good (these are NOT fast plastic as they call 'em) 120 ppm device and rather than warehouse them they're placed in a NET NEW location generating half the revenue they were getting AND they've got a NET NEW color printer. It's all about the clicks and the aftermarket. In three years (or perhaps much sooner) there's another "great offer" and . . .
This topic has topped a couple of hundred page views over the last week and there are an additional 9 threads from other Print4Pay Hotel members.
Click here to become a member of the largest social group of copier professionals in the world!!
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Me: Dig this. I followed up today with a small print shop here in NJ today, towards the month end for me and this print shop had been in the market for a color printer, however my price was not right for him a few months ago.
Anyway, I'm on the phone with him (he's a good guy and wouldn't bs me), he tells me that he signed and agreement from Xerox for a refurbished 120ppm digital copier and a 25ppm color system with NO Base charges and NO minimums for monthly click charges, along with that he stated the cost per page charge is right in line with new systems!
He has to keep the machine for a minimum of 3 years and if he decides to get rid of the system there is a $500 charge to remove.
To say the least I was shocked and to tell the truth the customer is too! He said he checked the paperwork and all looked well, I asked that he check it again and read all of the fine print because this just seems to good to be true. In addition he stated that one of his other printer buddies did the same deal in NJ. He also stated that he has to wait 4-8 weeks to get the systems.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this in other parts of the country????
Reply from Printfun:
This is legit. It is only open to current non-users. It is as advertised, there really aren't any "catches". The goal is to introduce non-users to Xerox production color machines, allowing smaller print for pay customers to get into the game afford ably.
Reply from Chuck:
Think about it - Xerox places a NEW device in a P4P or School location and picks up perfectly good (these are NOT fast plastic as they call 'em) 120 ppm device and rather than warehouse them they're placed in a NET NEW location generating half the revenue they were getting AND they've got a NET NEW color printer. It's all about the clicks and the aftermarket. In three years (or perhaps much sooner) there's another "great offer" and . . .
This topic has topped a couple of hundred page views over the last week and there are an additional 9 threads from other Print4Pay Hotel members.
Click here to become a member of the largest social group of copier professionals in the world!!
-=Good Selling=-
Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Selling Copiers and MFP's "Ask Art"
I am looking for some good talk tracks that work, when dealing with non Xerox prospects. It seems like when I call every non Xerox customer is completely "happy" and no need to see me. Any suggestions?
This was a post on one of the forums of the Print4Pay Hotel today. I'm always more than happy to help someone new or someone in need in our industry. The Print4Pay Hotel offers many forums for all manufacturers reps to discuss solutions, ask questions and get sales help!
Here's the repsone I posted on the P4P Hotel forums.
For starters, everyone is happy to say they are happy with their current provider to get you off the phone!
Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see is something my father always said, doesn't make much sense but he always said it!
Selling today is a lot more complicated than years ago. When I started, you would whip out the yellow pages, pick a type of business and just start making cold calls. The pitch was simple something to effect "Hi this is so and so, and I'm calling to see you have the need for a new copier". That was it, plain and simple and believe it or not you really, really wanted a no, so you could hang up and get the next dial in. Sooner or later you were going to find someone that would take a look at a demonstrator unit from you.
If I used that pitch today, I'm sure all of my answers would be NO, GO AWAY, and a hang up.
Today I find my self making multiple calls to find the "right" person, and then many calls to finally get the "right" person on the phone. I find that these words will help spark some interest:
We may be able to lower your costs
We may be able to manage your documents that will result in increased productivity.
Decrease the smount of pages copied or printed
Manage your printing to move prints to lower cost systems
These are just a few, it's a numbers game and you've gotta make the dials to find who is unhappy, who's looking to save, or who needs additional or new systems.
Look for these signs:
Companies moving
Companies hiring
Companies where the parking lot is overflowing
Companies that were awarded a major contract
Do these:
Join your locate chamber of commerce or networking club and attend the meetings
be involved (volunteer)locally for sports, politics and religious orginazations
Make 200-300 calls a week
It's not easy work, it's hard work and you have be dedicated. Hope this helps!
-=Good Selling=-
This was a post on one of the forums of the Print4Pay Hotel today. I'm always more than happy to help someone new or someone in need in our industry. The Print4Pay Hotel offers many forums for all manufacturers reps to discuss solutions, ask questions and get sales help!
Here's the repsone I posted on the P4P Hotel forums.
For starters, everyone is happy to say they are happy with their current provider to get you off the phone!
Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see is something my father always said, doesn't make much sense but he always said it!
Selling today is a lot more complicated than years ago. When I started, you would whip out the yellow pages, pick a type of business and just start making cold calls. The pitch was simple something to effect "Hi this is so and so, and I'm calling to see you have the need for a new copier". That was it, plain and simple and believe it or not you really, really wanted a no, so you could hang up and get the next dial in. Sooner or later you were going to find someone that would take a look at a demonstrator unit from you.
If I used that pitch today, I'm sure all of my answers would be NO, GO AWAY, and a hang up.
Today I find my self making multiple calls to find the "right" person, and then many calls to finally get the "right" person on the phone. I find that these words will help spark some interest:
We may be able to lower your costs
We may be able to manage your documents that will result in increased productivity.
Decrease the smount of pages copied or printed
Manage your printing to move prints to lower cost systems
These are just a few, it's a numbers game and you've gotta make the dials to find who is unhappy, who's looking to save, or who needs additional or new systems.
Look for these signs:
Companies moving
Companies hiring
Companies where the parking lot is overflowing
Companies that were awarded a major contract
Do these:
Join your locate chamber of commerce or networking club and attend the meetings
be involved (volunteer)locally for sports, politics and religious orginazations
Make 200-300 calls a week
It's not easy work, it's hard work and you have be dedicated. Hope this helps!
-=Good Selling=-
Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Death of the Fax Machine "Finally"
I borrowed a line from Greg Walters from The Death of the Copier here.
It's my firm belief that the fax machine as we know it will cease to exist. Now, if you would have asked me three months ago, I would have told you never, ever, fax will always be here.
What's changed my mind? A few things, one I'm gonna keep to myself because I'm not sure if the person I spoke wants me to release that information to the public at this time. The other item would be emergence of "smart" MFP’s (multi functional product) that are capable of communicating to the "cloud".
In my way of selling and I'm always thinking about how to reduce a clients cost and how to get an immediate ROI so a decision can be made in a timely manner.
Here's my thinking with faxing when it comes to existing MFP's. Let's say I'm on an appointment for a new SMB (small to medium business) account, one of their requirements is that they need a fax option on the MFP. Depending on the cost of the MFP would also dictate the cost of the fax option. Most faxes for me are in between $995 & $1,375. We’ll take the middle of the road at $1,200; putting this on a 36 month lease we’d have a payment of $35.52 plus tax for a total of $38 even.
Since most fax lines in SMB accounts are dedicated and not VOIP (Voice over IP), typically the cost of the line, dialing plan, Federal Excise Tax, State Tax and other BS fees. An average fax line can cost $45-$78 (Verizon came in a $78 with unlimited local and long distance) per month. Here’s an interesting fact I found out when researching the “additional charges”, the Federal Excise Tax was passed in 1898 to fund the Spanish American War, and it’s not gone away. World War I saw the establishment of the Long Distance Tax and World War II saw in an increase in both Taxes and they’ve never gone away!!!
So, if you’re going to add a fax option to an MFP you have the monthly cost of the fax module at $38 and let’s call the monthly fee to have the line with $55.00. I think I’m being fair in calculating a total cost of $93 per month.
Let’s move onto a “smart” MFP, which is any MFP that can communicate through its browser with Cloud Services. The one that I have in mind is Fenestrae UDOCX Fax application. I’m mentioning them because I’m more familiar with that product than any other and at this time I don’t know of any other Cloud based Fax Solution.
The cost to buy the UDOCX fax application is $30 per month. For the $30 per month you don’t need the fax module for the MFP and you can do away with the fax line, thus a savings of $68 per month! Plus there’s a heck of a lot of additional features that are offered that can help improve any companies efficiencies. If you’re the Big Brother type and you want to see all inbound and outbound faxes, or send faxes and have notifications in your mailbox, then you’re in luck.
The main point I’m trying to make is that in today’s economy more clients want simple cost saving solutions. If you’re on the cutting edge of selling solutions, you can take this information and solution to bank. You won’t have to discount your hardware because you’re already $2,400 or so less the competition with a “smart” MFP Fax based Cloud Solution. So, I ask you who’s gonna get the sale, the rep with pick axe or the rep with the jackhammer?
There was a post on the Print4Pay Hotel forums many years ago, in the thread was this statement “Peter Drucker says, "Every business needs to prepare for the total abandonment of everything that it does."
Lastly, I had a conversation with someone today who spoke with a manufacturers rep and something to this effect was said “Why would we do this, we’ll lose all of our fax module revenue”. Pretty dumb huh?
Sell cost savings solutions, find ways to give a client and immediate ROI without sacrificing service, or productivity and increase their efficiencies, it’s a no brainer!!!
-=Good Selling=-
It's my firm belief that the fax machine as we know it will cease to exist. Now, if you would have asked me three months ago, I would have told you never, ever, fax will always be here.
What's changed my mind? A few things, one I'm gonna keep to myself because I'm not sure if the person I spoke wants me to release that information to the public at this time. The other item would be emergence of "smart" MFP’s (multi functional product) that are capable of communicating to the "cloud".
In my way of selling and I'm always thinking about how to reduce a clients cost and how to get an immediate ROI so a decision can be made in a timely manner.
Here's my thinking with faxing when it comes to existing MFP's. Let's say I'm on an appointment for a new SMB (small to medium business) account, one of their requirements is that they need a fax option on the MFP. Depending on the cost of the MFP would also dictate the cost of the fax option. Most faxes for me are in between $995 & $1,375. We’ll take the middle of the road at $1,200; putting this on a 36 month lease we’d have a payment of $35.52 plus tax for a total of $38 even.
Since most fax lines in SMB accounts are dedicated and not VOIP (Voice over IP), typically the cost of the line, dialing plan, Federal Excise Tax, State Tax and other BS fees. An average fax line can cost $45-$78 (Verizon came in a $78 with unlimited local and long distance) per month. Here’s an interesting fact I found out when researching the “additional charges”, the Federal Excise Tax was passed in 1898 to fund the Spanish American War, and it’s not gone away. World War I saw the establishment of the Long Distance Tax and World War II saw in an increase in both Taxes and they’ve never gone away!!!
So, if you’re going to add a fax option to an MFP you have the monthly cost of the fax module at $38 and let’s call the monthly fee to have the line with $55.00. I think I’m being fair in calculating a total cost of $93 per month.
Let’s move onto a “smart” MFP, which is any MFP that can communicate through its browser with Cloud Services. The one that I have in mind is Fenestrae UDOCX Fax application. I’m mentioning them because I’m more familiar with that product than any other and at this time I don’t know of any other Cloud based Fax Solution.
The cost to buy the UDOCX fax application is $30 per month. For the $30 per month you don’t need the fax module for the MFP and you can do away with the fax line, thus a savings of $68 per month! Plus there’s a heck of a lot of additional features that are offered that can help improve any companies efficiencies. If you’re the Big Brother type and you want to see all inbound and outbound faxes, or send faxes and have notifications in your mailbox, then you’re in luck.
The main point I’m trying to make is that in today’s economy more clients want simple cost saving solutions. If you’re on the cutting edge of selling solutions, you can take this information and solution to bank. You won’t have to discount your hardware because you’re already $2,400 or so less the competition with a “smart” MFP Fax based Cloud Solution. So, I ask you who’s gonna get the sale, the rep with pick axe or the rep with the jackhammer?
There was a post on the Print4Pay Hotel forums many years ago, in the thread was this statement “Peter Drucker says, "Every business needs to prepare for the total abandonment of everything that it does."
Lastly, I had a conversation with someone today who spoke with a manufacturers rep and something to this effect was said “Why would we do this, we’ll lose all of our fax module revenue”. Pretty dumb huh?
Sell cost savings solutions, find ways to give a client and immediate ROI without sacrificing service, or productivity and increase their efficiencies, it’s a no brainer!!!
-=Good Selling=-
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Sunday, April 3, 2011
Print4Pay Hotel's Copier Forums "Weekend Updates"
Finally we've had some decent weather here in the Northeast! My apologies for not posting much the last week, it was the end of the month, the end of the quarter and the end of the fiscal year for Ricoh. Sales seem to be picking up some, credit approvals seems to be somewhat spotty at best and margins I guess they are what they are.
In recent weeks I've been touting the fact that we have radiation FREE systems still in stock, so you need to buy now. The line has generated a few chuckles, but I'm deeply concerned about the possibility of hardware and toner shortages in the coming weeks. Supply and demand is an awesome concept, right?
Below are some of the threads that were posted for discussion on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. Enjoy!
Announcements & Discussions Forums:
Cloud Printing
Japan Crisis
Rumor has it.....
Is toner rationing on the horizon?
P4P Hotel's Document Library:
Sharp GSA Catalog
How to win a negotiation
Price Positioning Ricoh MP C300 vs HP CM3530
competitive A4 Landscape
P4P Hotel's Industry Proposals & Quotes:
Assorted Bid Summary for KM, Ricoh, Toshiba, Kyocera
ricoh mp7001 _mp2851
copystar cs-250ci color
Xerox WorkCentre 5665 "Pricing on the Street"
Canon imagePRESS 1110S
RFp's, RFQ's & Leads:
Bid for approx 420 MFP's in Northeast USA
RFP for School in NC
15 MFP's in Texas
hUGE pRINT pRODUCTION rfp IN ca
Copier Stuff We Found on the Web:
In 2009, it refinanced that lease, providing new copiers and lowering the monthly
Gordon Flesch wins 900K plus Bid
Another $25000 could be saved by removing all district printers and utilizing copiers
We were printing 45 million copies per year to the tune of about $1 million
Xerox can’t escape Carr case
We were printing 45 million copies per year to the tune of about $1 million
The Print4Pay Hotel forums are closed to the public and only accessable for industry professionals. To date we have over 2,300 registered members that consists of Dealer Owners, Dealer and Direct Sales Managers, Dealer & Direct Account Representatives, Manufacturers Direct Reps, and Industry Analysts. Log in here to become a member of the largest social group of imaging professionals in the world!
-=Good Selling-=
In recent weeks I've been touting the fact that we have radiation FREE systems still in stock, so you need to buy now. The line has generated a few chuckles, but I'm deeply concerned about the possibility of hardware and toner shortages in the coming weeks. Supply and demand is an awesome concept, right?
Below are some of the threads that were posted for discussion on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. Enjoy!
Announcements & Discussions Forums:
Cloud Printing
Japan Crisis
Rumor has it.....
Is toner rationing on the horizon?
P4P Hotel's Document Library:
Sharp GSA Catalog
How to win a negotiation
Price Positioning Ricoh MP C300 vs HP CM3530
competitive A4 Landscape
P4P Hotel's Industry Proposals & Quotes:
Assorted Bid Summary for KM, Ricoh, Toshiba, Kyocera
ricoh mp7001 _mp2851
copystar cs-250ci color
Xerox WorkCentre 5665 "Pricing on the Street"
Canon imagePRESS 1110S
RFp's, RFQ's & Leads:
Bid for approx 420 MFP's in Northeast USA
RFP for School in NC
15 MFP's in Texas
hUGE pRINT pRODUCTION rfp IN ca
Copier Stuff We Found on the Web:
In 2009, it refinanced that lease, providing new copiers and lowering the monthly
Gordon Flesch wins 900K plus Bid
Another $25000 could be saved by removing all district printers and utilizing copiers
We were printing 45 million copies per year to the tune of about $1 million
Xerox can’t escape Carr case
We were printing 45 million copies per year to the tune of about $1 million
The Print4Pay Hotel forums are closed to the public and only accessable for industry professionals. To date we have over 2,300 registered members that consists of Dealer Owners, Dealer and Direct Sales Managers, Dealer & Direct Account Representatives, Manufacturers Direct Reps, and Industry Analysts. Log in here to become a member of the largest social group of imaging professionals in the world!
-=Good Selling-=
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Monday, February 21, 2011
Smart MFP's "To the Cloud"

I found UDOCX (short for Unified Document Exchange) on a thread that they posted on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. In fact we were discussing cloud based MFP solutions and UDOCX was one of two companies mentioned as Software As a Service (SAAS)
You all know what I do, off to the web to check out their web site. So, what I found out is that this seems to be be AWESOME. Probably what I like most is that NO software is required to "Print from", "Scan2", "Print Email", "Scan2fax" and more!
I borrowed this from the brochure:
UDOCX is a cloud-based document processing service that extends your browser-embedded MFP with mail, print, store and fax features without the need to install or maintain any additional software or hardware and while protecting a company’s compliancy and security policies.
I was able to connect with UDOCX the other morning, we had a webex for 6AM my time from the folks in the Netherlands. So I've had the opportunity to view how the software works with the MFP browser and they were able to show me "ease of use" with the solution.
So, if you get the chance go to the UDOCX web site, download the brochure, view the site, set up a trial and above all tell em that you heard about them from the Print4Pay Hotel.
-=Good Selling=-
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Saturday, February 5, 2011
15 New Copier & MFP RFQ's & RFP's
Really, we've uploaded 15 Copier & MFP RFP's & RFQ's in the last week on the Print4Pay Hotel forums. In addition we've also posted an additional 5 leads for copiers & MFP's for the commercial sector.
The Print4Pay Hotel forums is a sited dedicated to Copier & MFP professionals. The heart and soul of the site is our forums. Our forums give our industry a secure forum to discuss sales, marketing, solutions and talk about the industry as a whole.To date we have over 1,930 global members, our site generates over 100,000 page views. Our members are dealer owners, dealer principals, sales professionals, sales managers, and manufacturers representatives.
Here's some of our recent threads for RFP's & RFQ's:
Copier RFP in DC
Xerox Color 550 Copier/Printer Lease in NC
NBS Print & Copier Support Services
OMG! 100 MPF plus unit RFP with 11mil annually!!!!
Solicitation for Wide Format Digital Copier, Plotter and Scanner
XEROX COPIER MAINTENANCE
36 Copiers in Ohio
COPIER MAINTENANCE SERVICE AND SUPPLIES AGREEMENT
Copier Bid in Washington, DC
45 ppm color in North Carolina
52 Copiers in GA
COPIER MAINTENANCE & SUPPLIES FOR THREE (3) YEARS
100+ units for RFP in MidAtlantic
Printer Repair Services in NJ RFP
Kansas 35ppm device
Membership for the forums is FREE, access to the secure "leads" forums can be purchased monthly and a yearly Premium Membership is less than $7 per month, but wait you get more with a Premium Membership you'll also gain access to all off the manufacturers forums and our secure "P4P Document Library"! The P4P Document Library features documents that I've used in my copier sales career to increase sales and marketing.
Here's a sampling of the documents I've posted:
Advantage of Color
14 Benefits of Leasing MFP
P4P Hotel's Document Imaging Glossary
Envelope Press from Ricoh
Copier Security Booklet
Global and N America Print Production work flow forecast
HP Cost Per Page Chart
Simple Excel Proposal Spreadsheet
A3 vs A4 Competitive Workbook
Just a short sampling of the documents, click here for a FREE membership!
-=Good Selling=-
The Print4Pay Hotel forums is a sited dedicated to Copier & MFP professionals. The heart and soul of the site is our forums. Our forums give our industry a secure forum to discuss sales, marketing, solutions and talk about the industry as a whole.To date we have over 1,930 global members, our site generates over 100,000 page views. Our members are dealer owners, dealer principals, sales professionals, sales managers, and manufacturers representatives.
Here's some of our recent threads for RFP's & RFQ's:
Copier RFP in DC
Xerox Color 550 Copier/Printer Lease in NC
NBS Print & Copier Support Services
OMG! 100 MPF plus unit RFP with 11mil annually!!!!
Solicitation for Wide Format Digital Copier, Plotter and Scanner
XEROX COPIER MAINTENANCE
36 Copiers in Ohio
COPIER MAINTENANCE SERVICE AND SUPPLIES AGREEMENT
Copier Bid in Washington, DC
45 ppm color in North Carolina
52 Copiers in GA
COPIER MAINTENANCE & SUPPLIES FOR THREE (3) YEARS
100+ units for RFP in MidAtlantic
Printer Repair Services in NJ RFP
Kansas 35ppm device
Membership for the forums is FREE, access to the secure "leads" forums can be purchased monthly and a yearly Premium Membership is less than $7 per month, but wait you get more with a Premium Membership you'll also gain access to all off the manufacturers forums and our secure "P4P Document Library"! The P4P Document Library features documents that I've used in my copier sales career to increase sales and marketing.
Here's a sampling of the documents I've posted:
Advantage of Color
14 Benefits of Leasing MFP
P4P Hotel's Document Imaging Glossary
Envelope Press from Ricoh
Copier Security Booklet
Global and N America Print Production work flow forecast
HP Cost Per Page Chart
Simple Excel Proposal Spreadsheet
A3 vs A4 Competitive Workbook
Just a short sampling of the documents, click here for a FREE membership!
-=Good Selling=-
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Sunday, November 7, 2010
Xerox ColorQube 8570 "What's the Total Cost of Operation?"
I really enjoy writing the "What's the Total Cost of Operation?" for printers. What amazes me most is the recommended monthly volumes and the monthly duty cycle claims from the manufacturers.
Alright, before we move forward let's get the monthly duty cycle thingy out of the way. All manufacturers will advertise a Monthly Duty Cycle, most when reading this will not interpret this correctly, some may even think that a Monthly Duty Cycle of 85,000 pages per month means that this printer can and will print 85,000 pages each and every month! That statement is not correct and as far as I'm concerned Manufacturers should get out of the habit of reporting a Monthly Duty Cycle. What is actually meant is that the printer may be able to achieve that volume per month on occasions.
But, let me give you a small scenario with the occasional duty cycle of 85,000 pages per month on the Xerox ColorQube 8570DN. First, the printer is rated at a speed of up to 40 pages per minute in color. In a recent report from PC Advisor they stated the the speed for a full page 22mb full page color photo exited at 2.1 ppm (pages per minute). Let's use this scenario with a print speed of 2.1 pages per minute. In one hour we would have 126 pages printed. Now we'll take 85,000 pages and divide by the hourly speed of 126 pages. It would take roughly 674 hours to reach the 85,000 page mark. Considering there is 160 work hours per month, it would take 4.2 months to run the 85,000 pages. :(
Remember we're having fun with this, different files will produce different print speeds. One of the keywords in how manufacturers rate print speeds is the word "upto", in the case of the Xerox ColorQube it's "upto" 40 pages per minute. Now, if the printer was capable of 40 pages per minute in color, it would take 35.4 hours to run the 85,000 pages and that's not counting the time to replace the paper. The ColorQube has a 525 sheet paper tray, thus you'd need to fill the paper tray almost 162 times!
To be fair, the ColorQubes recommended monthly volume is 8,000 pages per month per Xerox web page. Additional items that I find annoying is that there is no clarification if the 8,000 recommended or the 85,000 monthly duty cycle is a combination of monochrome (black) and color. I would assume by reading the brochure that I could run all color through the unit. Well, I went and read the brochure and it's amazing that there is no recommended monthly volume on the brochure, however what's mentioned twice is the Monthly Duty Cycle of 85,000 pages! :(
To the cost per page:
The 8,000 color pages per month based on a 20% coverage of the document means the consumable (solid ink and solid ink maintenance kit) cost per page will be .1230 cents for color and .0208 for monochrome (black). Your monthly cost for consumables not including parts or service for color will cost you a whopping $984.00 per month. Over the course of 60 months, you'll spend an estimated $59,040!!!!
Well, what happens when if my documents average 40% coverage?
The 8,000 color pages per month based on a 40% coverage of the document means the consumable (solid ink and solid ink maintenance kit) cost per page will be .2427 cents for color and .0208 for monochrome (black). Your monthly cost for consumables not including parts or service for color will cost you a whopping $1,941.60 per month. Over the course of 60 months, you'll spend an estimated $116,496!
Take a peak here for some page coverage examples.
End result is if you are need of reproducing 8,000 color pages per month, there are many alternatives that will save thousands of dollars such as a true Color Multifunctional Copier/Printer. These types of machines can have a color cost per page of under .10 cents per page which includes all consumables, on-site maintenance, labor and parts! You can take the extra money that you saved by reading this and send me the difference! :) If you are interested in a Color Multifunctional Copier/Printer check out our other site and we'll get you hooked up with a Print4Pay Hotel Cost per Page expert that would be more than happy to prepare a cost savings scenario for you!
-=Good Selling=-
Tuesday, May 4, 2010
Copier Hard Drive Security "Give it a Break"
A few weeks ago a story broke from a CBS reporter that traveled to New Jersey (of all places he had to pick New Jersey) to a copier bone yard aka used copier warehouse. Well, one thing he got right, New Jersey is one of the most corrupt states in the nation. However when it comes to copier hard drive security there were many Print4 Pay Hotel members that picked a few holes in his story.
Being an expert in the industry for over 30 years and being an avid Twitter user, I started seeing the comments come fast and furious about business and personal information on copier hard drives. I was aware of this years ago as were many copier manufacturers, most if not all manufacturers closed this loophole in the hard drive security many years ago.
The machines in question were bought for a few hundred dollars each, we all found it quite coincidental that all 4 machines had so much information. Here's what one Print4Pay Hotel member stated, "Not much chance that you'd buy 4 machines at random and then find out that you hit the jackpot with a police sex crimes division, a health care company and an architecture firm with plans of a building near ground zero, all on the day CBS decided to follow you with a camera", and another "I wonder how many copiers in that NJ warehouse have shipping paperwork attached or simply lying under the ADF. Wouldn’t an identity thief looking to purchase a copier be able to browse the NJ warehouse looking for shipping paperwork from financial institutions and turning down copiers being returned from “Mom & Pop” businesses?"
Another point with the report, in the video it showed the documents, I paused the video several times to get a date on the papers and none of them seemed newer than 2008, meaning that these copiers were most likely leased in 2003 time frame. Prior to 2003 Digital Copiers were in the infancy of development with only a few manufacturers had addressed security with hard drives on their units.
It's time to stop beating up on copiers, what about all of the old pc's that were thrown out or returned to leasing companies over the years, did anyone take the time to scrub those drives or remove them. Here's another post from a Print4Pay Hotel member "Did you know that if you format a hard drive that the data can still be recovered? There are wipe methods to prevent software recovery and hardware recovery. The dept. of defense has a specific 7 pass sanitize method that Sharp utilizes. That will prevent hardware recovery. However no matter where the hard drive comes from there have been documented cases of reverse engineering to bypass the wipe method. If know the wipe method used. This is why the specific methodologies are top secret and you can customize your sanitation method that is unique to prohibit this reversing process. The maximum security is 35 passes to sanitize the HD. This is based on Peter Gutmanns' paper "Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State Memory". The method is designed to erase data regardless of disk raw encoding. It effectively removes the magnetic remnants from disk, preventing hardware recovery tools from restoring any data.
I knew someone that had a HD in which they took a sledge hammer to. Broke the HD platters in many chunks & pieces. Guess what? That was not enough. Data was still recovered from chunks that were encrypted.
So the best thing to do is pulverize your HD's to dust then you can rest assured everything is gone. Sharp was the first to address security in digital imaging and received the first Common Criteria Validation for an MFP in 2001."
Over at the Print4Pay Hotel there were over 25 threads in reference to the above topic, general consensus, the report made good TV, also its old news in the copier industry and the industry has incorporated numerous security measures on the latest devices.
BTW, when was the last time you checked to see if your high end laser printer had a hard drive? Most likely it does, but it's easier to bash copier companies.
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